Franklin Sirmans

WHEN PEOPLE CALL LACMA’S CURATOR “FRESH,” “OPEN-MINDED” AND “QUIRKY,” WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS THAT HE AND HIS COLLEAGUES ARE RE-WRITING HISTORY.

“It’s all about looking and knowing,” says Franklin Sirmans, who has been head curator of the Los Angeles County Museum of Art’s contemporary art department since 2010. We are walking through Lost Line , an exhibition mostly organized by Franklin Sirmans’ colleague, Rita Gonzalez, on the second floor of the museum’s Broad Contemporary Art building—or BCAM, as everybody calls it. But even if Gonzalez spearheaded this show, it does what the contemporary department has been doing for the last four years: exploring connections between art from now and then in the museum’s collection, trying to figure what the museum has, and should have, and what the work can say together.

This may sound like a run-of-the-mill undertaking, but it’s actually not. Often, when you visit a “from the collection” show at a major museum, you feel that history is set, its major players chosen, and that you are simply being shown some of its highlights. Lately at LACMA, shows from the collection have been flexible propositions about how history might work. This openness feels almost radical.

We have just looked at a panorama by Argentina-born, Londonbased Amalia Pica, a younger artist new to LACMA’s collection. It spans the length of half a wall, and it’s made up of grainy, letter-size photocopies that come together to show a woman standing on a rock with a megaphone at her side. She stares out at a landscape much bigger than she is. On the adjacent wall hangs a framed letter and image detailing a work Terry O’Shea made in 1972. Sirmans tells me the story, versions of which I have heard before: O’Shea, who had won the museum’s Young Talent Award, had produced a geometric resin sculpture, then drowned it in the La Brea Tar Pits, those bubbling pools of tar adjacent to LACMA’s campus. Pica wasn’t even born when O’Shea threw his sculpture into the pits, but her work, like his, suggests the impossibility of competing with the grand bigness of the natural world. Making loose, cross-generational connections like this is something Lost Line  does nicely.

“We’re dealing with 1968 to the present, and having a building with 1968 to the present, and having a building that’s theoretically just dedicated to contemporary [art], it’s very exciting,” says Sirmans, referring to BCAM, which opened in 2008, thanks to financial Backing from philanthropist Eli Broad. “How do we deal with this? How do we acknowledge how contemporary art changes?”

Sirmans, who grew up in a 1980s New York where he likely saw Keith Haring drawings on subway walls out of the corner of his eyes, became fascinated in high school by Jean-Michel Basquiat’s merging of street, expressionism and tribal history. He studied English literature and art history at Wesleyan, where he wrote his thesis on Basquiat. Then he took a job in finance. But because of his thesis, Thelma Golden, then curating a Basquiat show at the Whitney Museum, asked him to write a chronology of Basquiat’s life and work for the catalogue. So began a career that took him to Milan, where he was U.S. news editor for Flash Art, to DIA Beacon outside of New York, where he worked in the publication Office. In the 2000’s, he curated or co-curated shows like OnePlanet under One Groove at the Bronx Museum or Make It Now: New Sculpture in New York  at the Sculpture Center. Then, in 2006, he went to the Menil Collection, a private Houston museum, to serve as curator of modern and contemporary art.

Sirmans began thinking about Los Angeles before he knew he would move here. Still at the Menil, he had been asked to write an essay for the Now Dig This: Art and Black Los Angeles 1960 – 1980 catalogue. Now Dig Thi s would open at the Hammer Museum in 2011, feature primarily assemblage art—works made by piecing together found objects and disparate materials—and trace the post-1960 influence of L.A.’s black artists. Instead of writing about those artists or assemblage specifically, Sirmans chose his subject the curator Walter Hopps. Perhaps because Hopps had been the Menil’s first director, his approach to exhibition- arranging was on Sirmans’ mind.

Hopps, the son of L.A. surgeons marked by his thick hair and thick-rimmed glasses, studied microbiology in school but had already begun his love affair with art history—school trips to museums had led to visits to local collectors’ homes. He married an art historian he met at UCLA, Shirley Nielson, at the base of the Watts Towers in 1955 and opened Ferus Gallery in 1957. The space would offer Andy Warhol his first show and champion the smooth, cool light and space art that would become a SoCal trademark. It also introduced some West Coast found-object art, though Hopps would promote that art to greater effect later, organizing, among others, an exhibition of black assemblage artist Noah Purifoy’s work at the Washington Gallery of Modern Art in 1968.

“Though I came to the guiding light late,” Sirmans wrote in the now-published catalogue, “I imagine that when curators of my generation were young and dreamed of being curators, visions of Walter Hopps danced in their heads.”

Hopps was a “curator’s curator,” says Sirmans. “He had this commitment to really clearly asking, ‘What does it look like?”” Hopps organized the first retrospective of Marcel Duchamp, the artist perhaps best known for the urinal he turned 90 degrees, named “Fountain” and exhibited at the Society of Independent Artist in 1917. The influence of his pragmatic radicalism on artists in the U.S. was undeniable, but no U.S. curator had paid him such close attention before. “[Hopps] would say, ‘This person is worthy of this sort of treatment,’ and because you give them this sort of treatment, you’ll learn from it,” says Sirmans.

If you read the press announcing Sirmans arrival and departure from the Menil and announcing his arrival at LACMA, words like these appear: “quirky,” “mash-up,” “diversity,” “reinvigorated,” “fresh,” “range of interests.” Collectors and members of art collector committees who have gone on tours with him will say they “like the way he talks about art,” and what they seem to mean is that he makes art—even iconic, canonized objects like Mondrian abstractions or Rauschenberg combines—seem openended and unpretentious but still genuinely interesting.

When Sirmans arrived at LACMA, the museum was in flux. Michael Govan had been director for just over two years. BCAM had just opened, its third floor filled with flash, expensive work from Eli Broad’s collection. Christine Kim, formerly of the Studio Museum in Harlem, had recently joined the contemporary Department as well. “Michael [Givan] said, ‘Dive in,’” Dirmans remembers. So he, Gonzalez and Kim worked through the collection, assembling a show they would title Human Nature. “We had four rooms to say, ‘This is how things were different [after 1968’],’” says Sirmans/ The first room included Bruce Nauman’s Walk with Contrapposto, a video in which the artist sways his hips in an exaggerated way while walking along a narrow corridor, and a photograph by Hannah Wilke of herself topless with kneaded erasers stuck to her face and chest, wielding two toy guns. Starting with work like this, that deals with rawness and embarrassment, rather than flashier pop- or minimalism- informed work from around that time, felt like an announcement that LACMA was going to do things differently.

Right now, Sirmans, who is working on the Ends and Exits  show on art from the 1980s scheduled to open this spring, has images of work by savvy appropriation artist Sherrie Levine and the sometimes abject, sometime elegant Robert Gober on his office wall. Works by both of them will go into the show. And he’s been looking at Basquiat again, as he crafts yet another essay on the artist. Recently, he spent time in front of “Gold Griot,” now owned by The Broad Art Foundation in Santa Monica. The work features paint stick on horizontal panels of wood, depicting a wildly grinning man with a skeletal torso, wide eyes shaped like sunflower seeds and teeth that look like blue, red and white

“Seeing it again now, I see how much the head is a split between an African mask and something like a carnivalesque costume,” says Sirmans. “You know it better every time you stand in front of a painting. Each time of writing is a time of trying to reckon with it, saying to it, ‘Tell me something else.’”
 

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Christy Turlington Burns

THE ICONIC SUPERMODEL AND FOUNDER OF EVERY MOTHER COUNTS ON FASHION, TRAVEL AND FINDING HER REAL MISSION IN LIFE.

“I’m not a great dancer,” says Christy Turlington Burns, a name synonymous with the supermodel era of the late 1980s and early 1990s. Born in Walnut Creek, California, to an American pilot and Salvadoran flight attendant, the genetically blessed  icon’s alleged two left feet have never held her back from soaring into a storied career that encompasses countless catwalk appearances, numerous lucrative contracts, hundreds of magazine covers and a host of memorable shoots with famed fashion photographers, such as Herb Ritts and Irving Penn.

She also appeared in a handful of show-stopping cult-classic films and music videos, from Robert Leacock’s  Catwalk  to George Michael’s “Freedom.” (Who could forget when Turlington Burns glided through those double doors barefoot and wrapped in a white sheet?) And in 1993, the Metropolitan Museum of Art declared the rising star the “Face of the 20th Century” after famed fashion designer Ralph Pucci created 120 mannequins modeled after her exclusively for the Met’s Costume Institute. No big deal.

But Turlington Burns is more than just the world’s most humble supermodel; the wife (she married actor and filmmaker Edward Burns in 2003) and mother of two (Grace, 9, and Finn, 7) is also a super humanitarian.  Determined to gift the globe with more than just a striking physical presence that includes an entrancing green-eyed gaze and legs for days that support her 5-foot-10 frame, the 44-year-old activist’s instinctual empathy for others inspired her to start giving back in a major way. “My parents passed their awareness of the world and love of travel onto me, so early on I knew that I wanted to live a life of purpose and was always searching for ways to be useful,” she reveals. “I found personal experiences—such as efforts to rebuild post-war El Salvador (1993), my mom’s birth country, or losing my father to lung cancer (1997), or even my own childbirth complications (2003)—have inspired me to engage in a more meaningful manner.”

Turlington Burns became a global maternal health advocate when she became a mother in 2003. After delivering her first  child, she experienced a childbirth-related complication. Since then, she has worked closely with humanitarian organizations such as CARE, ONE and (RED). In 2008, she entered the master’s program at Columbia University’s Mailman School and started production on No Woman, No Cry.  The film premiered  at the Tribeca Film Festival in 2010.

Every Mother Counts (EMC) was founded the same year. EMC is a campaign to end preventable deaths caused by pregnancy and childbirth around the world. EMC informs, engages and mobilizes new audiences to take action to improve the health and well-being of girls and women worldwide. “Meeting women who feel the same as I do about this cause has been the most rewarding aspect of my work with EMC,” Turlington Burns notes. “When people learn about these statistics, they want to take action.” EMC has gone on to reach a number of exciting milestones, including raising $140,000 during  the ING New York City Marathon in 2011 and releasing a second Every Mother Counts compilation album in 2012 that featured moving contributions from the likes of Eddie Vedder, Patti Smith, Lauryn Hill and David Bowie.

Since 2012, she has served on Harvard Medical School’s Global Health Council as well as the Dean’s Board of Advisors at the Harvard School of Public Health. Her advocacy goal is to inspire action in other women to make pregnancy and childbirth safe for all moms. “I’m a woman. I’m a mom,” says Turlington Burns. “Those two things are very much at the front of who I am.”

Turlington Burns is the latest subject of Citizens of Humanity’s monthly Just Like You inspirational film series, which celebrates  game-changing innovators from all walks of life through a cinematic salute that showcases their captivating charisma (past stars include legendary ballet dancer Mikhail Baryshnikov, famed tattoo artist Mark Mahoney, internationally renowned French chef Michel Rostang and Academy Award-winning costume designer Colleen Atwood, among others). In the film, Turlington Burns visits Haiti to share her organization’s  landmark initiatives with the company. As of last year, EMC has begun to provide grants to support programs on the ground in western Uganda and central Haiti. “EMC’s grant provides the funds to train 17 skilled birth attendants with midwives for the country,” she adds. “We’ve been documenting the progress of the students, and this was our second trip to check in on them during their year-long training.”

Crewmembers piled into two jeeps with Turlington Burns to travel out of Port-au-Prince on a three-plus-hour drive to Hinche in the central plateau to meet at the house of EMC’s sister organization, Midwives for Haiti (Sage Femmes Pou Ayiti).

When Citizens of Humanity approached Turlington Burns for the series, she immediately knew that it was the right fit for a  partnership, down to the name. “Humanity means all of us working for the betterment of all of society,” she explains. “It’s always exciting to learn that people are aware of and interested in supporting our advocacy efforts. We are always working to engage new audiences by participating in projects that allow us opportunities to share our mission with more people than we could reach on our own. It’s a really nice acknowledgement to be part of such an esteemed group of humanitarians.”

Turlington Burns’ unwavering passion for EMC is a labor of love that consumes most of her time these days, but she’ll never forget her groundbreaking fashion roots and where her work in the industry has taken her—even though “model” is one of the last titles noted on her Twitter bio, after mom, wife, daughter, yogi, marathoner, founder and author. So what does the supermodel, supermom and superwoman want to be remembered most for? “I try to live in the present, which doesn’t really allow for such musings,” she explains. “But I guess I would want to be remembered as having lived life fully.”

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Gay Gassmann

With one heel in the art world and the other in fashion, Gay Gassmann has helped to shape some of the most impressive collections of contemporary art to be found anywhere outside of a gallery setting. The European-based American art consultant delivers works that are showcased in various French design houses and high-fashion boutiques the world over, while continuing her mission to create new spaces within which contemporary art can be appreciated. It’s been a uniquely specific 30-year career path, with a re-emerging theme: She graduated with a B.A. in art history from the American University in Paris and received a master’s degree in the history of the decorative arts from the Cooper Hewitt/Parsons School of Design in New York, then spent two years at the J. Paul Getty Museum in the curatorial department of the decorative arts. Gassmann’s passion was for a brief and spectacular moment in art history—French decorative arts of the 1720s, an important albeit decidedly narrow period of exquisite furniture-making and ornamental craftsmanship. Its stars are long deceased, their legacy living on through masterfully hewn and hand-painted works in wood and silver and porcelain. As she studied the beautiful antiques of this period, Gassmann ruminated on why “decorative” remains a dirty word in fine art circles. “Paintings that sit above sofas have gotten a bad rap, and I think it’s not necessary,” she says.

She was already a confident art scholar 15 years ago when her gaze was pulled away from the work of past masters to that of present-day creators. She started to frequent art fairs, beginning long-running conversations with the artists, curators and gallerists shaping the modern-day fine art landscape. “I am not an artist but I am so moved by art and those who create it,” says Gassmann, who became obsessed with making “discoveries”—which to her sometimes meant new work by emerging artists, sometimes not, but it was always work that broadened her aesthetic and conceptual bandwidth and made her ask questions about what art really is. “I love if I can see the intent or the emotion in the work of art,” she says. “That’s what touches me and gets me passionate, whether it be a sculpture or a work on paper. From there, I build a relationship with the artist, and it’s often a relationship that takes a while, because I like to follow the art and see what its lasting impact is and discover what is the influence of the work.”

Gassmann’s profile and network of connections in contemporary art circles grew and grew, and before long she found herself working with artists, crafting collaborations and championing new spaces for art outside of galleries. It was a task to which Gassmann found herself very well suited. “Ultimately, my mission is to give visibility to thought-provoking art and artists,” she says, acknowledging that sometimes younger artists can be nervous about placing their work in nontraditional environments, more so than more established artists. “It’s interesting that the less known an artist is the more inflexible they tend to be, probably due to the great fear of being taken advantage of or not being taken seriously,” says Gassmann, conceding that “the spaces I have worked with are not for everybody.”

For the most part, though, Gassmann finds that her ideas regarding creative collaboration between artists and her clients are enthusiastically received on both sides, her efforts representative of a new movement that has seen more and more artists explore different models of commerce, showing their work outside of the traditional art market. In a full circle of sorts, Gassmann finds herself legitimizing “decorative” spaces by placing fine art works in them.

“I think back to grad school and how I dedicated two years of my life to studying the decorative arts,” she says. “At the time it felt like stepping away from the mainstream. Now, giving visibility to a wide range of artists and making art accessible to a broader public feels great and what I should be doing right now.”

In addition to her work as an art consultant, Gay Gassmann is a contributing art editor to T: The New York Times Style Magazine and contributes to the monthly page, A Picture and a Poem.

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Citizens x Gjusta

In good taste. In collaboration with our friends at Venice-based restaurant Gjelina, we’ve designed custom jackets for their bakery, Gjusta. The Citizens x Gjusta workman jacket is available exclusively on The Dreslyn. For each jacket sold, The Dreslyn and Citizens will donate 20% of proceeds to Gjelina Volunteer Program. GVP educates public school children in Venice, CA on the importance of connecting food through gardening and cooking, nutrition and environmental sustainability.

 

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DAVID MUSHEGAIN

Fashion photographer, world traveler and former street performer David Mushegain had been friends with Anthony Kiedis for some years, surfing with the Red Hot Chili Peppers frontman on a regular basis. When they realized they would both be in Japan at the same time, they thought it would be cool if Mushegain took some photos of the show, the second stop on the band’s I’m With You tour. So Mushegain took his camera and stood in front of the stage, but instead of training his lens on the musicians, he found himself intrigued by the fans. After the show, Mushegain sat down with the band and showed them his photos—an homage to the faces that stared back at the band night after night on the road. The band members were fascinated and invited Mushegain to compile a book of photos just like that, focusing entirely on the fans.

 

 

Soon enough, Mushegain found himself on the road with the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Four years, 130 shows and 100,000 photos later, the book Fandemonium would be born, featuring Mushegain’s anthropological approach to rock concert photography, a document of the passion that orbits one group of California musicians as they travel the globe.

There were the new fans, the lifers, the 8-year-old kids at their first concert. And the woman whose husband had died the day before, who flew six hours to see her favorite band nonetheless because she knew the music would ease her pain. Sometimes Mushegain went to the fans’ homes and peeked inside their world, stepping out of the heightened concert experience. Until embarking on the project, Mushegain had no idea the band had such a massive, cult-like following around the world, stretching from Argentina and Brazil to Eastern Europe. “We talked to so many people in so many cultures,” says Mushegain. “It was such a big thing to put your arms around, documenting a group of fans that numbers in the millions.”

One fan who stood out was Julia, a girl from Madrid who seemed to be at every single show on the tour. One night in Ukraine they saw a female figure curled up on a bench … it was Julia. “I said, ‘What are you doing here?’ And she said she was lost because she couldn’t understand the road signs.” They found her a place to sleep. “Her whole life is based around this band, and that kind of blew my mind,” says Mushegain, who is a musician and a music fan, but, alas, never with the quasi-religious fervor he saw on the road with the Chili Peppers.

 

 

 

Raised in an Armenian family in Los Angeles, Mushegain grew up playing the drums, and in the ’90s he took off around the world with his hand drums, playing on the streets in Ibiza, Peru, India, Brazil, Iran, Pakistan and Prague. After riding horses deep into the Amazon jungle to track down a shaman, a trip that resulted in many of his fellow travelers falling ill, he returned to New York, planning to take a break. A few weeks later 9/11 happened, altering the possibilities for travelers and forcing Mushegain to choose a new life path.

A lifelong fan of photographers Yousuf Karsh, Gerda Taro and Robert Capa, he had already been experimenting with various cameras, shooting shop mannequins around the world. When Johnson Hartig invited him to travel to Paris with him for Fashion Week, Mushegain found his new calling in the world of fashion. Vogue Italia published some of his mannequin shots, and soon Mushegain was in demand as a fashion photographer, particularly for the various editions of Vogue magazine. Unlike most fashion photographers, he always prefers to shoot his subjects (whether they be models, musicians or his friends) in their own environments, creating a highly personal body of work that he hopes will resonate for many years to come.

“When I approach work, I approach it with the idea that it will mature over time,” he explains. “Like with the Red Hot Chili Peppers project—I almost think they will have more pertinence 50 years from now, as people look at them and ask, ‘Remember when they were alive?’ That is fascinating to me.”

 

 

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Anderson Silva

The video went viral. “Anderson Silva’s leg wraps around Chris Weidman’s waist like a piece of spaghetti!” exclaimed a journalist for ESPN the day after 38-year-old Brazilian UFC champion Anderson Silva broke his leg dramatically in a fight against New York-born Weidman, a fighter nine years his junior. It’s impossible to watch Silva kick at Weidman then fall back without cringing, and equally impossible to imagine the pain. In the footage from that night, December 28, 2013, in Las Vegas, the fighter’s leg does indeed wrap unnaturally and limply around his opponent’s torso. Those standing or sitting cage-side heard a cracking sound.

“I don’t remember much about fights,” Silva says in retrospect. “It happens very fast. But this match, when I suffered the injury, I remember certain things perfectly.”

The fighter, who was born into poverty in Curitiba, Brazil, and initially learned martial arts by watching neighbor kids who could afford lessons, heard the cracking sound, too.

“I was preoccupied with holding my leg, but I held it in a lot of pain,” he remembers, “and my trainer, Rogério Camões, and Ed Soares, my manager, came. When they allowed my manager in, I still remember I said: ‘Boss, why did God allow this to happen to me? Why did God do this to me?’ In that moment, I thought it was all over. I was in a state of shock. I was worried about my family. I was worried about my leg, if I would walk again, train again, if I could fight again. A thousand things came to mind.”

Silva would be carted off that night on a stretcher and have emergency surgery to repair the tibia and reset the fibula in his left leg. Later, it took nearly six months for him to recover, he would wonder if God had indeed been trying to tell him something that night. Was it time for him to slow down?

Silva is 6-foot-2 and stoic with a square jaw and a defined, serious brow. Before his fateful fight against Weidman, The Spider, as he is often called, had gone undefeated for seven years, winning 16 consecutive fights and defending his UFC Middleweight Champion title a record 10 times. He had defeated one great fighter after the next, including Forrest Griffin, Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort and Dan Henderson. He could beat his rivals at their own games, and he was starting to seem unstoppable. “There have been plenty of moments in The Spider’s career that have already cemented him as the best of all time,” wrote Adam Hill for Bleacher Report in spring 2013.

But six months before his potentially career-ending fight, Silva had faced Weidman at MGM Grand Garden Arena for UFC 162, a middleweight championship fight, and lost his title.

“I lost the first time due to lack of focus,” he says in retrospect, and the reasons for that lack of focus ran deep: “Because I was thinking of other things, because I was unhappy with myself within what I was doing in my sport and disappointed even with the organizers of fighting, and the downfalls of celebrity and fighting itself.”

A few months later, as he geared up for his December rematch with Weidman, he had regained his composure, calmed his self-questioning.

“The second fight, I was completely ready for,” he says. Then his leg broke, dramatically and severely. “God gave me a signal there: ‘Dude, you gotta stop. You have to stop. I gave you a sign; you didn’t understand…’ But more than that, it was about being able to see yourself, to see yourself, which is very hard, and realize, ‘Darn, I’ve been doing everything wrong.’ ”

That’s what he had time to think about as he began his slow, multi-month recovery, going from lying on his back to using crutches to limping. The pressure of being and staying a champion had distracted him. “I didn’t have time to live my life, my reality, which was to be with my kids, to be with my family,” he says. The push—traveling to promote the fights, handling the back talk and insults opponents throw at each other, talking to journalists, playing the champion—had been wearing on him.

 

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“People don’t care if you’re injured, if your head is in the right place,” he says. “They want you to make it happen; the show must go on, and it has to be real. But this isn’t real. For me, it was never real. The system takes away the truth from you, takes fighting away from you as something you love.”

Silva, who had an obsession with superheroes as a child and began learning martial arts first through magazines and then by hanging around neighbor kids who trained in Tae Kwon Do, lived with his aunt and uncle for much of his childhood—his parents had been unable to afford his upbringing. During his middle-school years, he used to slip into a local Tae Kwon Do gym just to watch the kids in white uniforms train. After a while, an instructor who had noticed him lurking offered to teach him if he agreed to clean the gym in exchange. In high school, he took the same approach again, lingering around a nearby Muay Thai gym that he had to pass each day to and from home. That’s how he met his first trainer, Edmar. “Do you train in Muay Thai?” Edmar asked him one day when Silva was standing outside. “I train in Tae Kwon Do,” Silva answered. “Come over and I’ll train you,” Edmar said. Silva did, and stayed at that gym until he’d become a mixed martial arts phenomenon. The physical prowess, elation and magic that came with being a skilled fighter was probably as close as he could get in real life to the Spiderman and Superman fantasies he entertained as a child.

The fighter stayed in São Paulo until 2007, when his success in MMA made it financially possible, and also perhaps necessary, for him to move to the U.S. In Brazil he had been driving around in an armored car and worried about the safety of his family. He has €five children, three in the U.S. now and two in Brazil.

So he was in Los Angeles during his long, self-reflective recovery. Friendship, family, children, legacy: Those were the things he thought about most often, he says now. “One fight or two can’t define the human being, or the man,” he explains. “What defines you is your attitude as a friend, as a brother, as a father, as a son, as a citizen. This, yes, defines me as a person.” But watching his children at sports practice, running, jumping and
making plans for their futures, the fighter began to itch to return to his own love. “I still don’t know if I’m ready and if I can do what I did with such excellence before,” he says, though the apprehension wasn’t great enough to keep him from trying.

In the summer of 2014, speculation that Silva would return began circulating in MMA press. When he announced he would be facing Nick Diaz in January 2015, MMA Junkie referred to him as an “ex-champion” who, it was “safe to say,” was “returning with a bit more humility.” Silva won that fight against Diaz.

It wasn’t the same, though. He was the older, once-defeated fighter making a comeback.

“This thing, being a champion,” he says, “I can’t say that I don’t miss it sometimes… but when I started fighting, you just went there, fought, won if you won. Tomorrow it was all over, water under the bridge. All the victories I always had, the successful results I obtained, were always based on this: I go there, I fight, it’s over. I win, it’s over. I lift my arm, I go home. I lift my arm, it’s over. And then back to the start again.”

 

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